|
|
Post by ed on Mar 19, 2007 12:02:36 GMT
hi just got a call from work been bumped so be in all day thanks ed.
|
|
|
|
Post by Glenn on Mar 19, 2007 19:43:34 GMT
Hello ed - I didn't realise you could post messages as a guest  Must be some setting somewhere - who cares. Thanks for your bit of positive input. Just to try and clear things up for boatmadman (and me). The Frigate Bird BF 398 was the first steam drifter built by McIntosh & the first launched in the Buckie district, in May 1900. One of the original owners was George Murray 'Bodge' of Buckie. She sunk off Yarmouth in Nov 1904. Another Frigate Bird BF 24 was launched in April 1905 by A. Hall & Co. Aberdeen for George Murray 'Bodge' - this time she was built from steel. I suppose we can assume its the same 'Bodge', & he'd decided steel was the way to go after the first Frigate Bird was lost. This 2nd Frigate Bird was re,regd in 1910 to Frigate Bird BCK 68 - which is the model ed has I suppose. I'd like to have a bo-peep at that too ed - will be in Buckie in 2009 ;D |
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Mar 19, 2007 20:59:06 GMT
I am going next Tuesday Glenn! ;D
Done a bit on Jeannie last 2 days, but nothing worth pictures, it was electrical stuff and deck preparation - second thoughts, guess it is worth a pic, will take a couple!
Ian
|
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Mar 19, 2007 21:48:01 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Glenn on Mar 20, 2007 21:36:52 GMT
Thats not many sleeps now until your holiday boatmadman  Good luck & enjoy it. The pics certainly are worth posting. I assume the electric motor and propellor come as a matching unit, so you don't have to go scientific with the propellor size - pitch etc etc. Haven't had a chance to back that up on the website yet but will ASAP. |
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Mar 21, 2007 7:33:36 GMT
Hi,
I wish the motor and prop did come as a matching pair!
No, its guesswork!. The motor is a 12 pole low revving high torque unit from buhler running on 12v at the moment. If its too slow I can up the voltage to 24v max, the speed controller is also ok to 24v. so I have a bit of room to play with.
The prop is a standard marine type prop ( not RN, they are different), sized to fit in the space available!
There isnt much in the way of standardisation for these things (motor/props) as there are so many (thousands) of motors, props, boat combinations possible.
The boys who do race boats have this area sussed out, just not the scale aspect of the hobby.
Ian
|
|
|
|
Post by Glenn on Mar 23, 2007 22:42:05 GMT
Good luck then boatmadman. I once had an old Stella yacht I bought that had a an old single cylinder Volvo diesel sitting in the cabin to replace the old petrol engine that had been thrown over the side in disgust. Months later (after new engine bearers etc etc etc) she was ready for sea trials. The old diesel was revving out to the max but she was going about 1 knot. I bought another cheapie prop from a secondhand marine dealer that looked a bit more suited - then she was over propped, which I rectified by reducing the diameter with my trusty angle grinder - perfect result.  |
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 7, 2007 19:25:16 GMT
Hi, Back from Buckie, had a nice stop over, interesting area, weather could have been better, but we are used to that here! lol We stayed in an old converted croft in Portessie, 2 photo's are from the just outside the garden fence, one from within the garden - with Ginny, I think you will recognise the location! The heritage museum is closed for a while yet, its getting an extension and renovation, shame I missed that. I spoke to Mr. Johnnie Anderson who is involved in the museum and got some good info regarding Jeannie. The owner of the croft has a marine electronics business in the area and he was able to answer a few questions that Ian Mcintosh (the other one!) asked. The old Jones shipyard is now part of Buckie shipyards. In the 1960's they built Spey class yachts for a while then went back to fishing boats, the last one off their slips was a wooden trawler in 1988/1989. This area has now apparently been given over to housing development. There was a yard known as George Thompson and son who built heavy boats, they closed down about 1989. What type of boats these were wasnt made clear. The Buckie shipyards were previously known as Herd & Mackenzie. The current owners of the yards are Lithgow's. A message for the 'other' Ian McIntosh, I tried to e mail these answers to you also, but it bounced back. Ed, I tried to mail you also, no luck, must be at my end I think. I will call you about the model next week. Do you know af a Mrs Cynthia Nolan from Ontario Canada? She is a museum lifemember but appears to have moved as her newsletters are being returned. Apparently she is a relative of one of the McIntosh shipyard owners. Ian    |
|
|
|
Post by Glenn on Apr 8, 2007 7:03:11 GMT
Ian
Pleased you had a good trip. Yep - do recognise that location. Thanks for that other info as well.
Its a shame you didn't catch up with ed - keep trying.
I did write a letter to Mrs Cynthia Nolan, Ontario, Canada, early 2006 but never received a reply. Might be worth following that up - I'd forgotten all about her.
Cheers
Glenn
|
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 8, 2007 7:41:54 GMT
Glenn,
I talked to Ed on the phone before going to Buckie, he was away working while I was there but had left the model at his parents house, which was just 5 mins walk from where we were staying.
I went round to see it, a nice model that will clean up well. I am asking around contacts at the moment to see if anyone would think about taking it on.
Ian
|
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 9, 2007 21:32:02 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 11, 2007 12:17:51 GMT
Glenn,
Here is a reply received today from my enquiry to the little ships of Dunkirk association. I dont know if you have seen this before?
Ian
Dear Mr McIntosh
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I have found her in the Ministry of War transport list, showing that she was owned by Mrs M A Smith, c/o Moray Firth Fish Selling Co Ltd. She was built in 1915 and weighed 88 tons. She was commandeered on 30th November 1939, and the owners were paid £23 per month for her use.
Her Dunkirk entry is brief, saying she crossed to Dunkirk on May 31st with J W Nicholson RNR as skipper and Seamen A Morrison RNR DSM was given and award for bravery.
You may find out more information from the Dunkirk List by Col Orde, unfortunately I only know of two copies, one in the National Maritime museum and the other in the Guildhall library in London. The Imperial War museum may also have information.
Gerald Toghill has written a history of the Admiralty Trawlers, and Requisitioned Trawlers, see Amazon, but I couldn't find her listed in there.
I hope this is of interest, I can send you copies of what I have found if you would like.
John Tough
ADLS Archivist
PS. Just received this by e mail, am now awaiting the information in the post and will copy to you when it arrives.
Thank you for your email. There is information in the Dunkirk List under
Yarmouth Base (HMS Watchful) as she was part of a flotilla of 13
drifters attached to HMS Watchful. There is too much to type but I can
send you a photocopy if you give me your full postal address
|
|
|
|
Post by Glenn on Apr 11, 2007 20:51:59 GMT
Excellent sleuthing there Ian Thats pretty interesting info - maybe a separate page for the 'Jeannie McIntosh' might be in order. What do you think? Glenn |
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 12, 2007 5:20:09 GMT
Yeah, why not a page of her own. The only trouble is you might want to do the same for all the boats they built! ! ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by boatmadman on Apr 16, 2007 15:36:51 GMT
Glenn,
I sent you an e mail with some more info on jeannie during ww2. Did you get it?
Ian
|
|
