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Post by Glenn on Oct 4, 2006 22:16:15 GMT
boatmadman - I think a lot of people besides me will be very interested in the development of your model of BCK 209 Jeannie McIntosh. For the benefit of forum readers
This email from 9/9/2006
I came across your website today, and wanted to say how good and informative it is. I had no idea the McIntosh name was associated with boat building.
I have built model boats for some years, and have just completed my first full size sailing dinghy.
I am now looking for the next model to build and was searching for steam drifter plans when I found your website. Naturally, I would love to have a go at one of the Mcintosh boats, with steam plant for propulsion.
Do you have any sources of plans or lines diagrams for any of the Mcintosh steam drifters?
many thanks for your help.
Hi, Glenn,
I tried to e mail you a couple of days ago, but it bounced back. this is what I said:
Well, no luck in getting plans or lines for Jeannie Mcintosh! I think she may have been built by experience and eye!
Buckie Heritage centre sent a picture and external dimensions, which is a start.
I have a set of lines from the book Tree to Sea, but it is of a Lowestoft Drifter, although it looks v similar.
One thing I am not sure about is the stern construction of the BCK boats. Do you know if they were tug style stern? Or if not, what style?
The work on the engine is coming along, am going to use a twin oscillator, and maybe in the future change it to a twin vertical.
Regards Ian
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Post by Glenn on Oct 4, 2006 22:19:50 GMT
boatmadman - I haven't really got anything that isn't on the website, but I have done some higher resolution pics of any steam drifters that have good views of the stern & posted them here glennmci.brinkster.net/contris/model.html
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 5, 2006 15:06:59 GMT
Yes I am ok with a page on the project, but be warned, I am a slow builder, Work gets in the way of the hobby!
I wont be going to the same extensive constructional detail as the other model linked through your site, but hopefully, the finished article will be a reasonable approximation!
The pic I have is the same one as you have. By deduction, I think that Jeannie probably had a tug style stern as that was prevailent in most areas around 1915.
I have spoken to a couple of friends in this area who have a wealth of knowledge and experience in modelling ships and they take the same view.
I have been given a number to call in Aberdeen, someone who has a lot of knowledge in the subject.
At the end of the day, I think that if I manage to get somewhere near the pic, no one will be able to criticise it, (I hope!).
I will take a pic of the engine components so far this weekend and post it on the forum.
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 5, 2006 15:08:18 GMT
Those stern pics look useful, thanks.
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Post by Glenn on Oct 5, 2006 19:21:56 GMT
Looking forward to watching your progress. Finally got my hands on 'From Tree to Sea' albeit only a library loan. Lovely book with plenty of info. No doubt you will be referring to it a bit as you progress with your model. The main difference between the drifters they built & the Buckie ones, certainly looks like the stern design.
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 7, 2006 20:45:23 GMT
Hi, After further research with help from Glenns pictures and some friends suggestions, I am now certain that Jeannie did not have a tug style stern. Some of the machined engine components The boiler shell Engine components as supplied. Ian
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Post by Glenn on Oct 7, 2006 21:37:31 GMT
Who supplied them?
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 8, 2006 5:28:24 GMT
The boiler was given to me by a retired coppersmith, its awaiting hydrostatic testing now. The castings I bought from Stuart Turner. www.stuartmodels.com/Ian
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Post by Glenn on Oct 15, 2006 3:17:32 GMT
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 19, 2006 21:30:46 GMT
Glenn,
I have been told on good authority that the national maritime museum have a picture of BCK Brine (1918).
I cant find any reference to this on your website, so i thought I would let you know in case you wish to persue it.
Ian
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Post by Glenn on Oct 22, 2006 1:31:34 GMT
Ian Thank for that, but as it wasn't (I don't think) a McIntosh boat, I'll let that go past. It is listed as having a photo at the NMM though. Which gets me to one of my favourite grumbles. Our institutions in Australia have a very different attitude to those in Britain when it comes to making pictures available for people to view. Places such as the Australian War Memorial at Canberra have an extensive amount of images online. OK if you want to use one there are conditions but at least you can view it. There is also an online library here www.pictureaustralia.org/ that is a fantastic resource, combining most of the major Australian libraries. I thought thats what libraries were for - to share the information they have - many of the old photos were donated anyway by people who wanted to share them. So that gets us back to the NMM. They come up with some lame duck red-herring about the pics being in negative form - so what. And if you can afford to lash out and buy one - they ain't cheap. Another museum that gets the thumbs down is the Maritime Museum in Cape Town who have a massive collection of old ship and boat photos which can be purchased (no images online) for (starting from) 25 Pounds Sterling!!!!! ??
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 26, 2006 19:15:27 GMT
The output end of the engine The battery is to give an impression of size, not to drive it! ;D The engine has had a short run on compressed air today, will now have to wait until the boiler is ready for a proper run!
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Post by Glenn on Oct 27, 2006 19:28:04 GMT
Very interesting boatmadman I'm going to be away for about 2 weeks so don't think I've lost interest - I'll post when I'm back.
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Post by boatmadman on Oct 28, 2006 14:00:00 GMT
have a good holiday, hopefully I will be able to show some progress in the next two weeks!
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Post by boatmadman on Nov 8, 2006 14:34:09 GMT
some progress now, the frames cut and mounted, keel fixed and planking started. Looks a little messy at the moment, but they always do during build First planks on its a slow process! a little more done! The keel is cut deeper than required to give stability during the build. When the hull is complete, I will reduce the depth below the planking by about half.
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